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blalock
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posted 10-07-2006 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blalock   Click Here to Email blalock     Edit/Delete Message
I was so excited to go to ASTM's website to find polygraph-related standards, but was quite taken aback by the costs for each document. For example, the cost for the TWO page document entitled, "Standard Practices for Interpretation of Psychophysiological Detection of Deception (Polygraph) Data" was $29.00. Yikes! Then, I thought, "Hey, maybe I'll become a member of ASTM, and as an added benefit, receive a the related documents either free or at a much more reasonable cost. I found that I would only get a 10% break on the cost of the documents. While I am certain that attendance at ASTM polygraph-related meetings would be quite enriching, I need to find a part-time job just to afford a few polygraph-related documents... Anyway, as a sidenote. I noticed in a previous thread that AAPP has a polygraph handbook for its members. Does anyone know if APA will provide the same for its members?

Ben

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Barry C
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posted 10-08-2006 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
It costs you $75 to become a member of ASTM, and as part of membership you get all the standards (plus all the other forensic standards in the book).

AAPP will be releasing its new book in January - last I heard anyhow.

APA has commissioned one, but it's a ways off at this point. There is something else in the works that shouldn't be too far off.

I encourage you to join ASTM as it gives you voting rights and a say in the standards as they are developed and amended. Just go re-read how to join as you were reading the wrong info (the 10% applies to something else).

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blalock
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posted 10-08-2006 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blalock   Click Here to Email blalock     Edit/Delete Message
Barry,

Thanks for the information. I think I will go ahead and join. Have you been to any ASTM seminars yet?

Ben

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Barry C
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posted 10-08-2006 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barry C   Click Here to Email Barry C     Edit/Delete Message
They don't have polygraph seminars. They meet each year before or after AAPP or APA's seminar in order to review and / or vote on new standards. In any event, I haven't yet been to one of those weekend events. I might get to one day of next year's though. It all depends on the schedule.

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sackett
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posted 10-17-2006 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sackett   Click Here to Email sackett     Edit/Delete Message
blalock,

to add a point for you and others reading this post.

I joined the ASTM last year and attended 2 meetings so far. It is not a good 'ol boys club (based on school or association loyalties) to direct the profession in any one particular train of thought or practice.

Rather, I found ASTM to be an eclectic group of professionals collectively helping the profession become more standardized and, dare I say it, maybe even someday judicially noted.

It's worth the $75 bucks to be a part of the decisionmakers and designers in the future of our profession.

Hope to see you in a meeting someday,

Jim

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J L Ogilvie
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posted 10-26-2006 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for J L Ogilvie   Click Here to Email J L Ogilvie     Edit/Delete Message
I have been a member for many years and recommend all examiners join. As Jim found out the meetings are quite different than what you might expect.

We have arguments and debates and sometimes it becomes heated but we always seem to find common ground on which to move forward.

There is a meeting in Atlanta December second and third. There is also a meeting scheduled for the Saturday and Sunday prior to the AAPP meeting in Albuequeque in April 2007.

You don't even have to be a member to go to the meetings and your input would be welcome. You just couldn't vote on anything.

Jack

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